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		<title>Comment on Call for Art-Science Residency Proposals at IMERA, Marseille by Dodd Holsapple</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/10/22/call-for-art-science-residency-proposals-at-imera-marseille/comment-page-1/#comment-14888</link>
		<dc:creator>Dodd Holsapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Roger,

Please allow me to introduce myself to you.  I am a visual artist working Los Angeles and dealing with themes of primitive cultures, stone masonry and objects related to social status in my latest bodies of work.  I am seeking collaboration with a science match allowing my concepts to develop further as I push my contemporary artwork.  Lately I have been very active in producing a large body of work along with a rapid promising exposure.  Several of these works are at the moment unpublished but are available for you to see via .jpg.  I would like to know if you may believe this work will be a fit for the residency opportunity that you are currently offering.  Thank you for taking the time to correspond with my request.

Sincerely, Dodd Holsapple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Roger,</p>
<p>Please allow me to introduce myself to you.  I am a visual artist working Los Angeles and dealing with themes of primitive cultures, stone masonry and objects related to social status in my latest bodies of work.  I am seeking collaboration with a science match allowing my concepts to develop further as I push my contemporary artwork.  Lately I have been very active in producing a large body of work along with a rapid promising exposure.  Several of these works are at the moment unpublished but are available for you to see via .jpg.  I would like to know if you may believe this work will be a fit for the residency opportunity that you are currently offering.  Thank you for taking the time to correspond with my request.</p>
<p>Sincerely, Dodd Holsapple</p>
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		<title>Comment on FINAL REPORT  NSF  SymBIOtic ART &amp; Science: An Investigation at the Intersection of Life Sciences and the Arts by Sara Kapadia</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2012/01/07/final-report-nsf-symbiotic-art-science-an-investigation-at-the-intersection-of-life-sciences-and-the-arts/comment-page-1/#comment-14826</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Kapadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing. We have launched The STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Art and Mathematics) Journal at Claremont Graduate University, and I will be contacting those involved at this NSF event. 

Thank you. 

Sara Kapadia 
The STEAM Journal 
steam@cgu.edu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing. We have launched The STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Art and Mathematics) Journal at Claremont Graduate University, and I will be contacting those involved at this NSF event. </p>
<p>Thank you. </p>
<p>Sara Kapadia<br />
The STEAM Journal<br />
<a href="mailto:steam@cgu.edu">steam@cgu.edu</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Next Steps in building Network of Science Engineering Art and Design by admin</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/12/04/next-steps-in-building-network-of-science-engineering-art-and-design/comment-page-1/#comment-14769</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the final Vision/Mission Statement for the proposed Network for Science, Engineering, Art and Design.

A mailman list has now been set up for anyone interested in joining in the discussion and being
kept informed:

https://lists.viz.tamu.edu/listinfo/nsead

If you want to join go to the link.

In addition there is a document sharing site:

http://www.viz.tamu.edu/faculty/lurleen/main/NSEAD/

roger malina


&lt;strong&gt;NSEAD 

Vision&lt;/strong&gt; 

We will become the leading advocate for collaboration among the sciences, 
engineering, arts and design, fostering innovation and learning that impact 
community sustainability and economic growth 

&lt;strong&gt;Mission&lt;/strong&gt;

We operate in entrepreneurial, sustainable ways to identify and promote broader 
impacts for communities and individuals in new areas of practice, research and 
critical discourse achieving creative excellence and intellectual merit.

&lt;strong&gt;Goals&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;
Advocacy for research and creative work&lt;/strong&gt;
The network facilitates experimentation with new methods, materials, and modes 
of creative inquiry and understanding in order to spawn groundbreaking 
discoveries and inventions.

&lt;strong&gt;Advocacy for learning and education&lt;/strong&gt;
The network promotes life-long learning by supporting topics, pedagogies, and 
evaluation methods that integrate the sciences, engineering, arts and design.

&lt;strong&gt;Advocacy for partnership&lt;/strong&gt;
The network is a nexus for strategic partnerships among individuals and 
organizations including government, industry, civic and academic institutions 
fostering initiatives that bring together diverse disciplines and domains.
&lt;strong&gt;
Advocacy for innovation and economic development&lt;/strong&gt;
The network champions partnerships that value sustainability, community 
development and social entrepreneurship, in order to spur economic growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the final Vision/Mission Statement for the proposed Network for Science, Engineering, Art and Design.</p>
<p>A mailman list has now been set up for anyone interested in joining in the discussion and being<br />
kept informed:</p>
<p><a href="https://lists.viz.tamu.edu/listinfo/nsead" rel="nofollow">https://lists.viz.tamu.edu/listinfo/nsead</a></p>
<p>If you want to join go to the link.</p>
<p>In addition there is a document sharing site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.viz.tamu.edu/faculty/lurleen/main/NSEAD/" rel="nofollow">http://www.viz.tamu.edu/faculty/lurleen/main/NSEAD/</a></p>
<p>roger malina</p>
<p><strong>NSEAD </p>
<p>Vision</strong> </p>
<p>We will become the leading advocate for collaboration among the sciences,<br />
engineering, arts and design, fostering innovation and learning that impact<br />
community sustainability and economic growth </p>
<p><strong>Mission</strong></p>
<p>We operate in entrepreneurial, sustainable ways to identify and promote broader<br />
impacts for communities and individuals in new areas of practice, research and<br />
critical discourse achieving creative excellence and intellectual merit.</p>
<p><strong>Goals</strong><br />
<strong><br />
Advocacy for research and creative work</strong><br />
The network facilitates experimentation with new methods, materials, and modes<br />
of creative inquiry and understanding in order to spawn groundbreaking<br />
discoveries and inventions.</p>
<p><strong>Advocacy for learning and education</strong><br />
The network promotes life-long learning by supporting topics, pedagogies, and<br />
evaluation methods that integrate the sciences, engineering, arts and design.</p>
<p><strong>Advocacy for partnership</strong><br />
The network is a nexus for strategic partnerships among individuals and<br />
organizations including government, industry, civic and academic institutions<br />
fostering initiatives that bring together diverse disciplines and domains.<br />
<strong><br />
Advocacy for innovation and economic development</strong><br />
The network champions partnerships that value sustainability, community<br />
development and social entrepreneurship, in order to spur economic growth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ATEC at UT Dallas by hubert pierre</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/arts-and-humanities/ut-dallas-and-atec/comment-page-1/#comment-14612</link>
		<dc:creator>hubert pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happy new year ATEC and roger   we will know more about your new work soon 
pierre alain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happy new year ATEC and roger   we will know more about your new work soon<br />
pierre alain</p>
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		<title>Comment on NASA ART; 50 Years of Exploration by Whitney Dail</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/12/28/nasa-art-50-years-of-exploration/comment-page-1/#comment-14314</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitney Dail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the exhibit in DC at the Air &amp; Space Museum while it was up. Since the works are used in the agency&#039;s service, they are definitely in the conservative and illustrative vein. Anne Collins Goodyear, a Smithsonian curator, wrote an article called &quot;NASA and the Political Economy of Art, 1962-1974&quot; in the book The Political Economy of Art: Creating the Modern Nation of Culture (2008). The article explains the reasoning behind their choices of artists and ways they encouraged them to work creatively. It can be read on Google books, if interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the exhibit in DC at the Air &amp; Space Museum while it was up. Since the works are used in the agency&#8217;s service, they are definitely in the conservative and illustrative vein. Anne Collins Goodyear, a Smithsonian curator, wrote an article called &#8220;NASA and the Political Economy of Art, 1962-1974&#8243; in the book The Political Economy of Art: Creating the Modern Nation of Culture (2008). The article explains the reasoning behind their choices of artists and ways they encouraged them to work creatively. It can be read on Google books, if interested.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft Text for Comment:  Borders of the Real and Multiple Futures by Daniel Caleb</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/11/12/draft-text-for-comment-borders-of-the-real-and-multiple-futures/comment-page-1/#comment-13832</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although &quot;search for intelligent intelligence (SETI)&quot; is funny, I assume you meant it the way the acronym was intended. Of course, when one thinks about super-computer driven economies and hiring board decisions, I can easily understand the slip. I guess the problem is that we don&#039;t remember the history of our ancestors, even though our innovations and inventions are intricately dependent on them and their ideas.
Ideas (or innovation or invention) are invariably based upon other ideas. The metrics that elude you could be based upon the number of iterations an idea needed in order to get itself to a certain point. One example might be the written word. As the technology of writing progressed, humans went through iterative stages of participatory design. The metric of the keilschrift would necessarily be lower than that of the Gutenberg press, and the comment I am now writing would have a higher metric than writing a reply using a word processor from the 90&#039;s.
As far as communicating with other(worldly) cultures is concerned, I think that the human race is probably doomed to never personally meet its neighbors. Not because 2012 is right around the corner, but because the window in time is so incredibly miniscule - it would be like finding water on Mars: by the time you have discovered it, it is already gone. 
To that end, I think that a new approach is necessary - one where we stop trying to find other civilizations in the stars in the hope that we will succeed and can feel better because our innovation and neugier has been justified, but rather assume that we are alone in the universe for the time being. As the only sentient species around, it is invariably our duty to inform other sentient species in the future that we existed, and to do that we need to undertake outreach and use our resources to communicate with a language transcendant of financial instruments and political machinations: ART.
To bring my comment full circle, it is my sincere hope that humans endeavor to make space a context for art instead of a pretext for war or justification for another Really Big Telescope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although &#8220;search for intelligent intelligence (SETI)&#8221; is funny, I assume you meant it the way the acronym was intended. Of course, when one thinks about super-computer driven economies and hiring board decisions, I can easily understand the slip. I guess the problem is that we don&#8217;t remember the history of our ancestors, even though our innovations and inventions are intricately dependent on them and their ideas.<br />
Ideas (or innovation or invention) are invariably based upon other ideas. The metrics that elude you could be based upon the number of iterations an idea needed in order to get itself to a certain point. One example might be the written word. As the technology of writing progressed, humans went through iterative stages of participatory design. The metric of the keilschrift would necessarily be lower than that of the Gutenberg press, and the comment I am now writing would have a higher metric than writing a reply using a word processor from the 90&#8242;s.<br />
As far as communicating with other(worldly) cultures is concerned, I think that the human race is probably doomed to never personally meet its neighbors. Not because 2012 is right around the corner, but because the window in time is so incredibly miniscule &#8211; it would be like finding water on Mars: by the time you have discovered it, it is already gone.<br />
To that end, I think that a new approach is necessary &#8211; one where we stop trying to find other civilizations in the stars in the hope that we will succeed and can feel better because our innovation and neugier has been justified, but rather assume that we are alone in the universe for the time being. As the only sentient species around, it is invariably our duty to inform other sentient species in the future that we existed, and to do that we need to undertake outreach and use our resources to communicate with a language transcendant of financial instruments and political machinations: ART.<br />
To bring my comment full circle, it is my sincere hope that humans endeavor to make space a context for art instead of a pretext for war or justification for another Really Big Telescope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 Positions in Arts, Humanities,Science, Technology at UT Dallas by admin</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/10/31/9-positions-in-artscience-technology-at-ut-dallas/comment-page-1/#comment-13423</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great ! i highly encourage you to apply
roger malina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great ! i highly encourage you to apply<br />
roger malina</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9 Positions in Arts, Humanities,Science, Technology at UT Dallas by Marco Orlandi</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/10/31/9-positions-in-artscience-technology-at-ut-dallas/comment-page-1/#comment-13392</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Orlandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear prof. Malina,
I&#039;m getting a Ph.D. In History and Computing at the University of Bologna, Italy and I&#039;m very interested. I will read each position very carefully! 
Thank you very much,
Kind regards,
Marco Orlandi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear prof. Malina,<br />
I&#8217;m getting a Ph.D. In History and Computing at the University of Bologna, Italy and I&#8217;m very interested. I will read each position very carefully!<br />
Thank you very much,<br />
Kind regards,<br />
Marco Orlandi</p>
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		<title>Comment on NSF Art Science workshop at Maryland Institute College of Art Nov 14 and 15 2011 by amy holt cline</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/11/12/nsf-art-science-workshop-at-maryland-institute-college-of-art-nov-14-and-15-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-13198</link>
		<dc:creator>amy holt cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an incredible list of past meetings related to art and science. I am really interested to learn more about the current NSEAD partnership underway. I have worked with NSF in ocean science in the past and am glad to know these types of partnerships are happening.

Thanks for posting all of this on the linkedin list serve. My graduate thesis is focused on combining art and science through a computer based application that teaches volunteers at an ocean science center in New Hampshire about the rocky intertidal zone. I have been researching yours and many others work surrounding art and science topics.

I will keep looking out for more information related to the NSEAD development, I am now teaching science in an arts based school to high school students so I am reluctant to signing on for more emails, but am very interested in the development of this project. 
Good Luck, 
Best, Amy Cline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an incredible list of past meetings related to art and science. I am really interested to learn more about the current NSEAD partnership underway. I have worked with NSF in ocean science in the past and am glad to know these types of partnerships are happening.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting all of this on the linkedin list serve. My graduate thesis is focused on combining art and science through a computer based application that teaches volunteers at an ocean science center in New Hampshire about the rocky intertidal zone. I have been researching yours and many others work surrounding art and science topics.</p>
<p>I will keep looking out for more information related to the NSEAD development, I am now teaching science in an arts based school to high school students so I am reluctant to signing on for more emails, but am very interested in the development of this project.<br />
Good Luck,<br />
Best, Amy Cline</p>
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		<title>Comment on Networking  5.0: Networks of Networks in Art-Science-Technology by Dave Everitt</title>
		<link>http://malina.diatrope.com/2011/11/22/networking-5-0-networks-of-networks-in-art-science-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-12386</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Everitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say if a network doesn&#039;t self-organise via unmonitored and sustained communication between individuals, it isn&#039;t a network but a managed structure. I&#039;d also argue that you can only asses what kind of network it is by analysing the interactions between participants/nodes quantitatively and that, retrospectively once the network is running successfully.

I also wonder how self-organising networks survive within institutional structures which are typically hierarchical and often status-based with a strong management and administrative remit, as well as a need for institutional promotion. It seems from my observations that individuals who respond to each other tend to by-pass or work around their institutional frameworks in order to connect, although they are obviously need to frame their interactions in a manner that their supporting institutions can recognise.

I&#039;d see the main issue of interest is how as sustained relationships often cut across or ignore institutional initiatives: if the latter want to respond to or foster these self-organising networks, perhaps they could support advocates who are *already connected*, watch how they work, and *really listen* to what they need in order to continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say if a network doesn&#8217;t self-organise via unmonitored and sustained communication between individuals, it isn&#8217;t a network but a managed structure. I&#8217;d also argue that you can only asses what kind of network it is by analysing the interactions between participants/nodes quantitatively and that, retrospectively once the network is running successfully.</p>
<p>I also wonder how self-organising networks survive within institutional structures which are typically hierarchical and often status-based with a strong management and administrative remit, as well as a need for institutional promotion. It seems from my observations that individuals who respond to each other tend to by-pass or work around their institutional frameworks in order to connect, although they are obviously need to frame their interactions in a manner that their supporting institutions can recognise.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d see the main issue of interest is how as sustained relationships often cut across or ignore institutional initiatives: if the latter want to respond to or foster these self-organising networks, perhaps they could support advocates who are *already connected*, watch how they work, and *really listen* to what they need in order to continue.</p>
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